is joe schmo one of the guys the nsa is infusing to worry about the e-mail? i saw this piece i was reading, saying haven't i read this before? some of this we have known, haven't we? >> well, we certainly have known that the nsa oversees a collection of a vast amount of internet voice communication and uses the internet to hunt through them. and we know that here on domestic soil where the constitution applies and so forth it does sometimes under the fiza amendment act, target overseas collections. and if america is in direct contact with that foreign target that means the american's communication will be taken without a warrant, as well. so what is different about this, this is the searching of the content of americans of at least their cross-border communications, and it is happening on u.s. soil without warrants. >> you have real technical detail on how they do it, it is kind of fascinating. they in effect make a kind of clone of the information, and according to the report, hold it briefly, maybe minutes or less. and if they don't find the things they're